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Kerstin· 2 hours ago
David, yes, I am using pretty narrow orbs I think. At least others tell me so, I should not be that strict. lol However, I am actually not really sure about this topic and what the right orb is. For now I am using a 1 degree orb, especially for eventbased astrology. I don`t know if it is too narrow or too wide, just using it cause for now I feel more comfortable with it than with other -wider- orbs, but I am open to have my mind changed.

I am also very curious about the difference between synastry and composites, but have not really formed an opinion on this yet. I do notice however that if an EVC overlay happens it means that the underlying synastric aspect is mirrored by the planets in the current sky. I have a feeling this is significant, without really knowing in what way.
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Phillip· 15 hours ago
I've been trying to figure out why James Watson was an atheist and I think I've figured it out. First there is his exact isotrap, Mercury/Saturn oppose Neptune/Pluto and this gets to critical and obsessive thinking about Spirituality. However the vibrations that this configuration leads to are 7 (Pluto/Saturn and Mercury/Neptune ) and 16 (Saturn/Neptune and Pluto/Mercury ) . So he was severe in a research oriented approach for 7, and had a strong drive to obsessive contemplate Spirituality for 16. But this only gives me a mild indication, other harmonics could change the story. Then I was watching the video on Trump and his 43rd and got the crucial piece. Watson has Sun/ Saturn in extreme 43rd followed by South Node, Moon then Jupiter. So I think his attitude is that while there is a largeness to the mystery of the cosmos, ultimately we are nothing relative to that. The fact that the South Node is there indicates that the group of people he is in community with tend to have a similar attitude. So he is an atheist because he believew there must be no God because we are all nothing within the vastness of th cosmos.
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Phillip· 1 day ago
Wow! 2 degree orb for Trump's entire 129th pattern ! This should be very conspicuous! I wasn't paying attention to that when I first saw it!
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David Cochrane· 2 days ago
LAURA AND PHILLIP: Yes, Phillip is correct and Phillip, your explanation is excellent. I copy and paste below the line from Harmonic Patterns Listing #1 for Donald Trump:

129: NEPTUNE-MARS-MOON-PLUTO, *** 2 DEG *** (Neptune-0-Mars-1-Moon-0-Pluto) 43x3

The 43x3 vibration is in capital letters because the planets are within only 2 degrees in this vibration. This also means that there are some trines between these planets in the 43-vibe chart. The numbers 43 and 3 are prime numbers and the meaning of the 43x3 vibe is smooth flowing (3) 43-vibe and most of the meaning is in 43-vibe and not the 3.

BTW, you can also select Interpretation and then Profile Scores and then the option for Strongest vibrations 1 - 360 and when the listing is produced scroll down about half way to see the list from strongest to weakest. A third way to get the strongest vibe is Linda Berry's Frequency Finder program. All 3 methods give some similar results but pick up on different things. The Profile Report considers midpoint structures as well, and Linda's Frequency Finder also considers additional aspects in addition to the conjunction in the vibrational chart.
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David Cochrane· 2 days ago
LUCY: I love your enthusiasm! We share the same amazement and enthusiasm about Pisano periods and the zodiac. This enthusiasm gets me inspired to keep moving forward on the work with all this. Sharing stuff is more fun than going solo.

Both of your questions are excellent.

1. "what if the vibration is one that does not seem to fit well with a planet's nature. . . ?" Let's take the example of Saturn in 11-vibe. In VA we consider Saturn not to inhibit or slow down directly but to cut to something fundamental and essential. In 11-vibe Saturn is impatient to get to what is important and does not like making excuses. It's a "just do it" feeling. Donald Trump has a Mars-Saturn-Moon-Pluto tight configuraton in the 11-vibe chart and he is fond of firing people if they are too slow or ineffective. Saturn in 31-vibe: skeptical of all religions and philosophies, and rejects almost all religions and philosophies but gets excited about something that gives really relevant information on the mysteries o life. It takes a lot of time to get the feel of how planets function in different vibes.

2. " what if two vibrations seem to contradict each other?" Then you have a complex person. Some people are complex and contradictory or function very differently in different situations. For example, there are people who are very analytical and may work in science or technical areas but then also are so open-minded and intuitive in their thinking that they believe in things most people are skeptical of. A better example is someone can be extremely fastidious in their art work or craft but very sloppy and careless with managing their domestic and financial affairs. People can be complicated and express seemingly contradictory traits in different situations. Very often instead of saying whether a person is brave, strong-willed, fussy, etc. the issue is in what areas of life these things are conspicuous and what areas they are missing. For some people most traits may be consistent across different areas but for others they are contradictory. Modern "chart synthesis" often whitewashes over the contradictions and complexities of people.


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David Cochrane· 2 days ago
PAUL: There does not appear to be much that we agree about regarding topics we have discussed thus far but we do agree that nobody, including myself, has successfully completed a hypothesis test and replicated it enough times to make it unambiguously clear that astrological variables can produce measurable effects. I am slowly and gradually moving towards that goal but it is likely to be at least decades in the future before this is achieved. However, if I or anyone succeeds at this, I will let you know.

Also, for any scientists who are cynical about the research that I do, I share this in the spirit of transparency and not for the purpose of debate: perhaps the most important point is that my view is that there is a new model for astrology (Vibrational Astrology) that is getting excellent support from research and appears to be on its way to being able to be clearly and unequivocially scientifically validated. I am not aware of other models that have gotten as positive support from research and I do not know if they ever will, so the failures in previous research do not concern me a great deal as they use a different model and this means that different predictor variables are studied in Vibrational Astrology than in other research studies. In building the model we look for variables that appear to be effective and gradually build a more sophisticated and reliable formula for predicting the outcome variable. It's a slow and time-consuming process as most research is. For my own research I prefer investigations based on theory and expectations from my anecdotal evidence and personal experiences in astrology and from exploratory studies. I tried using data mining methods (classification trees, random forests, SVM's, ANN's, etc.) by exporting data into files that I analyzed with the R software but I only got vague hints. These just weren't the right tools for me with this kind of research. To evaluate whether my research is making as much progress as I claim takes some time to consider. For example, some, but not all, of the research and especially missing are the more impresssive recent studies are summarized here: https://www.astrosoftware.com/cpnew/a_and_v/research_va.html

Again, I share this not with an interest in debate or resolving our points of view, but just to give a more complete sense of the status of the research and what its aims and objectives are. I think that we have already surpassed evidence that supports a good number of psychological and sociological theories that are considered in academia but still a long way from solid replicated quantitative hypothesis tests and on this last point we agree but you would no doubt see it more as unsurmountably distant and I see this on the horizon and probably achieved in this century.
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Phillip· 2 days ago
Also Laura, if you look at that list, on any given value for for four planet patterns it will give a number or a list of numbers. At 129 for Trump it shows 43x3 meaning that these are the factors of the harmonic. If the number is prime it will just list the harmonic again.
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Phillip· 2 days ago
Hello Laura, a multiple of a harmonic is usually considered strong for that harmonic as well. For Trump, his 4 planet pattern occurs at the 129th harmonic which is 43x3, and that does occur in the patterns #1 report (at least it came up for me me when I ran it). Also this will be represented in the 43rd harmonic chart with trines and conjunctions. Draw Trumps 43rd harmonic chart and you'll see what I mean.
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